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Postulate: No Two Suns Have Ever Collided
20 years 9 months ago #8264
by Mac
Replied by Mac on topic Reply from Dan McCoin
Meta,
<blockquote id="quote"><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica" id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote">The two magnets will appear to hit each other. Atomically, no two like bodies ever really touch. The Van Der Wall forces are simply too great.[<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"></blockquote id="quote"></font id="quote">
ANS: I was at the center of a simular debate regarding subatomic collisions about one year ago on another site. I ended up getting replies from a couple of high energy physics labs which stated that in fact there were a couple of reactions and conditions where actual physical collision was considered to occur but they were rare and not natural.
I have forgotten the names of those processes and would have to see if I can go back and find those threads. But the claim of "No" collisions seems invalid.
"Imagination is more important than Knowledge" -- Albert Einstien
<blockquote id="quote"><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica" id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote">The two magnets will appear to hit each other. Atomically, no two like bodies ever really touch. The Van Der Wall forces are simply too great.[<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"></blockquote id="quote"></font id="quote">
ANS: I was at the center of a simular debate regarding subatomic collisions about one year ago on another site. I ended up getting replies from a couple of high energy physics labs which stated that in fact there were a couple of reactions and conditions where actual physical collision was considered to occur but they were rare and not natural.
I have forgotten the names of those processes and would have to see if I can go back and find those threads. But the claim of "No" collisions seems invalid.
"Imagination is more important than Knowledge" -- Albert Einstien
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20 years 8 months ago #8221
by north
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the argument seems also based on two solids colliding(billiard balls,magnets etc.)however i do not consider Suns a solid mass.it is obvious,with the HEAT produced by them,that Suns are more of a fluid state and i would think that the HEAT produced would make breaking any nuclear bonds easier.also the Suns magnetic field would also not be strong enough to prevent a collision.planets being in much more of a solid state would be a different matter.
Suns colliding, with their fluidity,i see happening without a problem.
the argument seems also based on two solids colliding(billiard balls,magnets etc.)however i do not consider Suns a solid mass.it is obvious,with the HEAT produced by them,that Suns are more of a fluid state and i would think that the HEAT produced would make breaking any nuclear bonds easier.also the Suns magnetic field would also not be strong enough to prevent a collision.planets being in much more of a solid state would be a different matter.
Suns colliding, with their fluidity,i see happening without a problem.
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20 years 8 months ago #8297
by Meta
Replied by Meta on topic Reply from Robert Grace
"But the claim of "No" collisions seems invalid."
Perhaps you learned men have forgotten that the universe has no solid "particles", therefore, in addition to like repelling like, nothing can collide because there isnt any THING to collide.
Its all a waveform. I know...18,000 scientists say things collide but there is really nothing to collide. Hense, you only "seem" to know what you are talking about.
Meta
Perhaps you learned men have forgotten that the universe has no solid "particles", therefore, in addition to like repelling like, nothing can collide because there isnt any THING to collide.
Its all a waveform. I know...18,000 scientists say things collide but there is really nothing to collide. Hense, you only "seem" to know what you are talking about.
Meta
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20 years 8 months ago #8334
by jrich
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<blockquote id="quote"><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica" id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"><i>Originally posted by Meta</i>
<br />"But the claim of "No" collisions seems invalid."
Perhaps you learned men have forgotten that the universe has no solid "particles", therefore, in addition to like repelling like, nothing can collide because there isnt any THING to collide.
Its all a waveform. I know...18,000 scientists say things collide but there is really nothing to collide. Hense, you only "seem" to know what you are talking about.
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Are you claiming that collisions between physical objects are impossible and do not occur in reality?
JR
<blockquote id="quote"><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica" id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"><i>Originally posted by Meta</i>
<br />"But the claim of "No" collisions seems invalid."
Perhaps you learned men have forgotten that the universe has no solid "particles", therefore, in addition to like repelling like, nothing can collide because there isnt any THING to collide.
Its all a waveform. I know...18,000 scientists say things collide but there is really nothing to collide. Hense, you only "seem" to know what you are talking about.
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Are you claiming that collisions between physical objects are impossible and do not occur in reality?
JR
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20 years 8 months ago #8393
by Meta
Replied by Meta on topic Reply from Robert Grace
<blockquote id="quote"><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica" id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"><i>Originally posted by jrich</i>
<br />Meta,
<blockquote id="quote"><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica" id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"><i>Originally posted by Meta</i>
<br />"But the claim of "No" collisions seems invalid."
Perhaps you learned men have forgotten that the universe has no solid "particles", therefore, in addition to like repelling like, nothing can collide because there isnt any THING to collide.
Its all a waveform. I know...18,000 scientists say things collide but there is really nothing to collide. Hense, you only "seem" to know what you are talking about.
<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"></blockquote id="quote"></font id="quote">
Are you claiming that collisions between physical objects are impossible and do not occur in reality?
JR
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<br />Meta,
<blockquote id="quote"><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica" id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"><i>Originally posted by Meta</i>
<br />"But the claim of "No" collisions seems invalid."
Perhaps you learned men have forgotten that the universe has no solid "particles", therefore, in addition to like repelling like, nothing can collide because there isnt any THING to collide.
Its all a waveform. I know...18,000 scientists say things collide but there is really nothing to collide. Hense, you only "seem" to know what you are talking about.
<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"></blockquote id="quote"></font id="quote">
Are you claiming that collisions between physical objects are impossible and do not occur in reality?
JR
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20 years 8 months ago #8421
by north
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define collision.
define collision.
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