- Thank you received: 0
Wils' Tetrahedron
18 years 4 months ago #9053
by jrich
Replied by jrich on topic Reply from
<blockquote id="quote"><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica" id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"><i>Originally posted by emanuel</i>
<br />This is, I think, a much better candidate for artificiality than any of the faces.
Emanuel
<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"></blockquote id="quote"></font id="quote">I agree. It would be interesting to know if the *land art* supporters agree and understand why.
(Hint - To be consistent and avoid undercutting their own arguments they should disagree that this is a better candidate.)
JR
<br />This is, I think, a much better candidate for artificiality than any of the faces.
Emanuel
<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"></blockquote id="quote"></font id="quote">I agree. It would be interesting to know if the *land art* supporters agree and understand why.
(Hint - To be consistent and avoid undercutting their own arguments they should disagree that this is a better candidate.)
JR
Please Log in or Create an account to join the conversation.
18 years 4 months ago #16196
by Gregg
Replied by Gregg on topic Reply from Gregg Wilson
[/quote]I agree. It would be interesting to know if the *land art* supporters agree and understand why.
(Hint - To be consistent and avoid undercutting their own arguments they should disagree that this is a better candidate.)
JR
[/quote]
This is a simpler and more obvious artificial structure but it is no more real than the *land art*. I myself do not see much of the *land art* but I have no working experience or training in art.
Gregg Wilson
(Hint - To be consistent and avoid undercutting their own arguments they should disagree that this is a better candidate.)
JR
[/quote]
This is a simpler and more obvious artificial structure but it is no more real than the *land art*. I myself do not see much of the *land art* but I have no working experience or training in art.
Gregg Wilson
Please Log in or Create an account to join the conversation.
18 years 4 months ago #9054
by emanuel
Replied by emanuel on topic Reply from Emanuel Sferios
<blockquote id="quote"><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica" id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote">This is a simpler and more obvious artificial structure but it is no more real than the *land art*. I myself do not see much of the *land art* but I have no working experience or training in art.<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"></blockquote id="quote"></font id="quote">
They are all just candidates in my book, Gregg. To me nothing has been proven one way or another, but artistic faces are much less persuasive than this tetrahedron, because of the pareidolia effect. Download images of nuclear mushroom clouds and volcanic eruptions. I did this and found many faces inside the cloud formations.
Emanuel
They are all just candidates in my book, Gregg. To me nothing has been proven one way or another, but artistic faces are much less persuasive than this tetrahedron, because of the pareidolia effect. Download images of nuclear mushroom clouds and volcanic eruptions. I did this and found many faces inside the cloud formations.
Emanuel
Please Log in or Create an account to join the conversation.
18 years 4 months ago #9055
by Michiel
Replied by Michiel on topic Reply from Michiel
If the vertical stucture next to the tetrahedron is carved out by water then the light is coming from the righthand side in Zip Monsters figure 1. In that case the tetrahedron is a pit.
Unfortunately, there is no clear impactcrater in the original strip. And I doubt if it corresponds with the green rectangle in the Viking Context Image:
ida.wr.usgs.gov/fullres/context/e06002/e0600269_gr.jpg
Unfortunately, there is no clear impactcrater in the original strip. And I doubt if it corresponds with the green rectangle in the Viking Context Image:
ida.wr.usgs.gov/fullres/context/e06002/e0600269_gr.jpg
Please Log in or Create an account to join the conversation.
- tvanflandern
- Topic Author
- Offline
- Platinum Member
Less
More
- Thank you received: 0
18 years 4 months ago #16000
by tvanflandern
Replied by tvanflandern on topic Reply from Tom Van Flandern
<blockquote id="quote"><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica" id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"><i>Originally posted by Michiel</i>
<br />If the vertical stucture next to the tetrahedron is carved out by water then the light is coming from the righthand side in Zip Monsters figure 1. In that case the tetrahedron is a pit.<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"></blockquote id="quote"></font id="quote">Many features have a black-white ambiguity that allows them to be seen as raised or sunken. The only way to know for sure is to look up the Sun azimuth for the image. This shows that the Sun is on the same side of the "tetrahedron" as the conspicuous triangular black shadow.
Work with the image until you see it both ways with equal ease. Then lock in on the correct perspective. Otherwise, the way you see it first will become dominant and you won't be able to shake that impression off. It sometimes helps to rotate the image. -|Tom|-
<br />If the vertical stucture next to the tetrahedron is carved out by water then the light is coming from the righthand side in Zip Monsters figure 1. In that case the tetrahedron is a pit.<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"></blockquote id="quote"></font id="quote">Many features have a black-white ambiguity that allows them to be seen as raised or sunken. The only way to know for sure is to look up the Sun azimuth for the image. This shows that the Sun is on the same side of the "tetrahedron" as the conspicuous triangular black shadow.
Work with the image until you see it both ways with equal ease. Then lock in on the correct perspective. Otherwise, the way you see it first will become dominant and you won't be able to shake that impression off. It sometimes helps to rotate the image. -|Tom|-
Please Log in or Create an account to join the conversation.
- tvanflandern
- Topic Author
- Offline
- Platinum Member
Less
More
- Thank you received: 0
18 years 4 months ago #9056
by tvanflandern
Replied by tvanflandern on topic Reply from Tom Van Flandern
<blockquote id="quote"><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica" id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"><i>Originally posted by jrich</i>
<br />It would be interesting to know if the *land art* supporters agree and understand why.<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"></blockquote id="quote"></font id="quote">I for one do not understand why. If anyone is making artificiality judgments based on appearance, then subjectivity will be unavoidable and judgments become a matter of personal taste and experiences. Only objective criteria should count. How do you objectify your expressed opinion that this is more likely to be artificial? I hope you have something more than "it looks more artificial", or "it is less common in nature than faces are". -|Tom|-
<br />It would be interesting to know if the *land art* supporters agree and understand why.<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"></blockquote id="quote"></font id="quote">I for one do not understand why. If anyone is making artificiality judgments based on appearance, then subjectivity will be unavoidable and judgments become a matter of personal taste and experiences. Only objective criteria should count. How do you objectify your expressed opinion that this is more likely to be artificial? I hope you have something more than "it looks more artificial", or "it is less common in nature than faces are". -|Tom|-
Please Log in or Create an account to join the conversation.
Time to create page: 0.536 seconds