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21 years 2 months ago #6326 by tvanflandern
<BLOCKQUOTE id=quote><font size=2 face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica" id=quote>quote:<hr height=1 noshade id=quote>[rj]: What if the Universe is already contracting and actually never expanded? Does the red shift automatically require expansion or just acceleration? If our Universe were on a steadily declining orbit towards a center gravitational point, would acceleration and distance not increase if all bodies were accelerating towards the center?<hr height=1 noshade id=quote></BLOCKQUOTE id=quote></font id=quote><font face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica" size=2 id=quote>

See [url] metaresearch.org/cosmology/DidTheUniverseHaveABeginning.asp [/url] for our position on "expansion": redshift has better interpretations. -|Tom|-


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21 years 2 months ago #6706 by rousejohnny
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I was asking, would not such a mechanics also produce a redshift.

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21 years 2 months ago #6581 by Jim
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Motion will cause redshift effects in both directions. On another thread on this board this topic was beginning to develop but was buried by other matters. It is a topic of interest to me for sure but others seem to miss the point and dismiss it as too trivial a matter to be wasting time on.

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21 years 2 months ago #6483 by rousejohnny
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The reason I asked the question Jim is because I have a big bang alternative that is merely a hypothesis. I call it the big split and try to explain how something came from nothing. It is based on an argument that the only nothing that is possible is neutrality (We have never observed a Neutron outside of an atom). I understand that there have been occurances of beta decay which can not be explained. I assert that this neutrality split into positive and negative energy and the dynamics created vorticities that became all mass. These vorticities are gravity and produce Mass. I further assert that the universe is actually collapsing and dividing and ultimately there will be only a single atom that will continue perpetually (no friction). I do not know of any observable data that can refute my claim... Where is Nobel Prize...lol.

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21 years 2 months ago #6582 by tvanflandern
<BLOCKQUOTE id=quote><font size=2 face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica" id=quote>quote:<hr height=1 noshade id=quote>[rj]: I was asking, would not such a mechanics also produce a redshift.<hr height=1 noshade id=quote></BLOCKQUOTE id=quote></font id=quote><font face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica" size=2 id=quote>

Only in one dimension, along the radial to the "center" (whatever that might mean). In other directions, objects would be getting closer together producing blueshifts. So your mechanism cannpt agree with the observations that show redshifts in all directions. -|Tom|-

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21 years 2 months ago #6328 by rousejohnny
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If the radial is curve and steadily declining and no body shares the same space?

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