Big Crunch?

"i like it!! it reminds me of my theory of two nothings coming together,and when they do,this is the only way they become manifest.although i like the way you put it better!!"

"the only thing is,how do you get the elecromagnetism to start if you have a neutral begining "0" charge? how would ball start rolling so to speak?"

0 and one 0, my friend.
0 and 1
1=2

The Law of Conservation only appears to be violated if you believe 1=1
Unity = 2 Buckminster Fuller

Meta

<i>Originally posted by Meta</i>
["the only thing is,how do you get the elecromagnetism to start if you have a neutral begining "0" charge? how would ball start rolling so to speak?"

0 and one 0, my friend.
0 and 1
1=2

The Law of Conservation only appears to be violated if you believe 1=1
Unity = 2 Buckminster Fuller

Meta
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meta

excuse my ablity to fathom,but explain above further.

I found this link on what I think Meta was talking about. You have to go down the page a bit.

www.rwgrayprojects.com/synergetics/s10/p1230.html#1013.10

I would like to read more about this guy, what I read seemed very interesting.

<i>Originally posted by rousejohnny</i>
<br />I found this link on what I think Meta was talking about. You have to go down the page a bit.

www.rwgrayprojects.com/synergetics/s10/p1230.html#1013.10

I would like to read more about this guy, what I read seemed very interesting.
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rousejohnny

i looked at this site as well,very interesting,so much so i have ordered a book of his.if you are interested i found the book on the Barns & Noble site.thanks for the tip!!

&gt; At 6-4-2004 13:55 -0400, you wrote:
Hello eenwerd

&gt; You received the following message from: rousejohnny
&gt; (rousejohnny@hotmail.com)

&gt; At: metaresearch.org/msgboard/

&gt; Hello Ed:

&gt; I would like to introduce myself and say welcome. My name is Johnny
&gt; and I have been posting here for just over six months now. Like most
&gt; people I came here with an agenda, I have a conceptual model of the
&gt; Universe I call the big split... ...I wish you would
&gt; read it and tell me what you see from a mathmatician's prospective.

&gt; www.metaresearch.org/msgboard/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=326 .

&gt; Thank you for any questions, criticisms or suggestions you may have.

&gt; Johnny


Hello Johnny

A nice idea of you, why not the opposite, the big split. And already a lot of postings. What has given you the idea? From large to small. What is the state before the big split? So where is it's history?

I agree red shift is just a problem. And I expect large curls will form like huge milky ways. Curling to the center in your case. The reverse process. With also irreversible processes. You will always lose parts and energy. In those arms you would meet different red shifts and also blue shift from far stars in a lower curl than you. So I think we would have a more colorful sky. When we could see it. Do theoreticians look at our real stars?

They are beautiful. Not surprising that the Egyptians made a religion from it.

Ed van de Meulen

Ed,

Thanks for your prompt response.

I have almost forgotten where the idea originated, but it started when It was in my freshman year with a paper I wrote on pantheism, a work developed by a Jewish Scientist/Philosopher (little distinction in those days) from your part of the world, a couple centuries back named Spinoza. He said that the Universe was God and God was the Universe (Needless to say he was excumunicated for this idea). He said that nature was God and that everything was part of God (God in a tea cup). This gave me the idea that if the Universe were monistic or 1 and could be taken to its simplest form what would that be? Neutrally charged energy is the only possibility I could come up with. This is the simplest form our universe can achieve and the closest thing to nothing our universe can be deduced to. So if our universe did have a beginning, it started from this.

I was hoping that you could help with the red shift problem. In a cone, with a gravitional force at the vertex end pulling all matter down a declining circular orbit at a constant rate, would not the only instance of blue shift occur for those bodies that are an equal distance from the source force along the axis?