My pareidolia knows no bounds.

As of this time there is only ONE definition of 'the word'(rev 1) that has been posted (by rderosa). I'll repeat it here for your convenience.

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encyclopedia.thefreedictionary.com/

<b><u>Definition:</u></b>

Pareidolia (/pr#616;#712;do#650;li#601;/ parr-i-doh-lee-#601;) is a psychological phenomenon involving a vague and random stimulus (often an image or sound) being perceived as significant, a form of apophenia. Common examples include seeing images of animals or faces in clouds, the man in the moon or the Moon rabbit, and hearing hidden messages on records when played in reverse.

The word comes from the Greek words para (#960;#945;#961;#940;, "beside, alongside, instead") in this context meaning something faulty, wrong, instead of; and the noun eid#333;lon (#949;#7988;#948;#969;#955;#959;#957; "image, form, shape") the diminutive of eidos. Pareidolia is a type of apophenia, seeing patterns in random data.

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Rev1

Until someone else posts a competing definition (USING THE REQUIRED FORMAT) this is the only possible meaning that 'the word'(rev 1) can have ON THIS BOARD.

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<blockquote id="quote"><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica" id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"><i>Originally posted by Larry Burford</i>
<br /><b>[rderosa] "Do you think it would be possible to find someone capable of making that sort of analysis?"</b>

And as always, finding the money to hire her would be the real problem.

LB
<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"></blockquote id="quote"></font id="quote"> I'm quite sure I had a discussion about the likely erosion scenario with Professor Levasseur once in a email correspondence. I'll see if I can find it, or contact him again. I was thinking along the lines of a gif simulation based on likely assumptions. Something students might do.

rd

<blockquote id="quote"><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica" id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"><i>Originally posted by Larry Burford</i>
<br />Interesting - lots of detail. But - to me at least - not compelling.
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This is still not really compelling to me either. But ... hard to forget once you see it.
LB
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Regarding "Einstein", the first time I saw it, I thought it was ok, pretty much your reaction. But one of the things J.P.Levasseur told me was how he would "gaze" for long periods of time. I know what that does. I had an experience with an image I found in shadows that was downright eerie once I "fused" it.

The more you gaze at Einstein, the more it has that impact on you. I can even tell now that he was stoned at the time, and a little depressed. I see most of his face so clearly that it's hard for me to imagine it's not real.

Regarding the puppy, I see a variety of possibilities, but I'm not even sure I found the one you're talking about. But I believe you and if I did find it, it would probably have the same effect on me. That's how pareidolia (rev1) works.

That image's resolution is 25.7cm/pixel (about 10 inches) and with 1 to 1 binning they claim 3 pixels are needed to resolve something. hirise.lpl.arizona.edu/ESP_011359_1695 I don't see where they tell you the size of the image strip to calculate how big this thing is, but my sense is that it's still not clear or compelling enough to be sure.

In my opinion, that's way too low a resolution to really be sure of anything. Sure, it could be an alien coming out of a cave, just like Malcolm thinks it is, but I doubt it.

The second pic shows that the whole area is clearly in pareidolic (rev1) soup, and not very difficult to pick out faces from.

Why don't they use one of those spy cameras I read about that can pick up a dime from hundreds of miles in the sky? Or is that part of the problem?



rd

<blockquote id="quote"><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica" id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"><i>Originally posted by Larry Burford</i>
<br />He might come back.

A fire storm like we just went through is ... rough. Give him a day or so.
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I think Malcolm should come back and use Pareidolia (original), give his definition and source, and continue on.

One of the things TVF always said to me was that it's precisely the people who disagree with you the most that make it interesting, and hones your skills.



rd

<blockquote id="quote"><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica" id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"><i>Originally posted by Larry Burford</i>
<br />As of this time there is only ONE definition of 'the word'(rev 1) that has been posted (by rderosa). I'll repeat it here for your convenience.
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In many ways, Fred's definition is somewhat more succinct (more precise, if you will) and gets away from the "psychological" point of view to the "actual" of it.

In my opinion, Fred is qualified to be a "source", so with his permission, I'll summarize his definition here:

<b><u>Reference:</u></b>

Fred Ressler: www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=pareidolia

<b><u>Definition:</u></b>

<b>Pareidolia</b>--

Pareidolia is the phenomena of seeing faces/figures/forms in patterns; as opposed to where one normally sees faces/figures/forms (on animals including people/landscapes etc.)

<i>Pareidolia is seeing what appears to the individual to be a representation of a face, figure, or form in the clouds, wood grain, marble, smoke, shadows, or any non-homogeneous area. It can also be an auditory phenomenon as in hearing white noise or a record played backward that sounds to the individual like words or a melody that isn't actually there.</i>

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Ressler


rd