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10 years 9 months ago #22255
by rderosa
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<blockquote id="quote"><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica" id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"><i>Originally posted by Marsevidence01</i>
<br />Like I have said previously, my whole formulation in evaluating the question of life on Mars was decidedly different than what I was seeing elsewhere. What I did was place the cart in front of the horse so to speak, in the sense that I made a decision that life must be present on the planet, now what I needed to do was to find the evidence. This allowed me to approach the images WITHOUT preconceived notions that life does NOT exist and I was to be then proven wrong.
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OK! This is hugely important, and it's important that you understand that this is exactly what Neil did too! He KNEW there was life on Mars.
Why is this so important? Because the more you believe something is there, the more you will find it. That's precisely what the "Superstitious 'S'" Experiment showed [by Philippe G. Schyns*, Aude Oliva* Department of Psychology, University of Glasgow,UK].
The more you believe something is there, the more chance you give your senses to find it. Ask Fred. He'll find 10 faces in the shadows to every one we find.
You may believe you took the logical approach by putting the cart before the horse, and maybe you did, but you also may have played right into the hands of pareidolia (modern). Once you believe the faces are <b>REALLY</b> there, <b>AND</b> all of your landscapes are pareidolic soup, you are bound to find what you're looking for.
The only way you're going to convince someone is to show us, in no uncertain terms, exactly what you think something is, and we agree. If it's a high resolution image of a shovel, you'll get no complaints. If it's "mysterious something", not so much.
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<br />Like I have said previously, my whole formulation in evaluating the question of life on Mars was decidedly different than what I was seeing elsewhere. What I did was place the cart in front of the horse so to speak, in the sense that I made a decision that life must be present on the planet, now what I needed to do was to find the evidence. This allowed me to approach the images WITHOUT preconceived notions that life does NOT exist and I was to be then proven wrong.
Malcolm Scott
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OK! This is hugely important, and it's important that you understand that this is exactly what Neil did too! He KNEW there was life on Mars.
Why is this so important? Because the more you believe something is there, the more you will find it. That's precisely what the "Superstitious 'S'" Experiment showed [by Philippe G. Schyns*, Aude Oliva* Department of Psychology, University of Glasgow,UK].
The more you believe something is there, the more chance you give your senses to find it. Ask Fred. He'll find 10 faces in the shadows to every one we find.
You may believe you took the logical approach by putting the cart before the horse, and maybe you did, but you also may have played right into the hands of pareidolia (modern). Once you believe the faces are <b>REALLY</b> there, <b>AND</b> all of your landscapes are pareidolic soup, you are bound to find what you're looking for.
The only way you're going to convince someone is to show us, in no uncertain terms, exactly what you think something is, and we agree. If it's a high resolution image of a shovel, you'll get no complaints. If it's "mysterious something", not so much.
rd
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10 years 9 months ago #22256
by Larry Burford
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POINT TO something, <u>a specific thing</u>, that **I** will consider unequivocal.
Show me a 'shovel'
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Show me a 'shovel'
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10 years 9 months ago #21874
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You did notice the quotation marks around the word shovel?
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10 years 9 months ago #21875
by Larry Burford
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Malcolm,
Suppose the rover that recently found that 'donut' had found several piles of rocks instead, in fairly close proximity to each other? Just ordinary rocks, like we have seen strewn all over the surface of Mars.
The first pile had two rocks. The second pile had three rocks. The third pile had five rocks. And the fourth pile had seven rocks.
What would you conclude?
LB
Rich, you can answer this as well if you want to. But let Malcolm go first.
Suppose the rover that recently found that 'donut' had found several piles of rocks instead, in fairly close proximity to each other? Just ordinary rocks, like we have seen strewn all over the surface of Mars.
The first pile had two rocks. The second pile had three rocks. The third pile had five rocks. And the fourth pile had seven rocks.
What would you conclude?
LB
Rich, you can answer this as well if you want to. But let Malcolm go first.
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10 years 9 months ago #22257
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Malcolm, I watched the video in 1080p HD. I was definitely locked in to 3D, and it's really amazing landscape, rich in contrast and topography changes. I have no real sense of what it is particularly that you are trying to show, though. rd
Rich, when I made this video, it was really to show the incredible topography of the marscape in this particular image file. Since then, things have developed somewhat so I am currently getting further evidence together. It is a most fascinating albeit complicated image file that truly harbors a mass of information both evident and not so evident. I will need to proceed over some time with image postings etc. and my time is limited for work related issues etc.
I plan on doing this under a whole new topic and will address this image file in depth shortly.
Sorry if I cut my earlier posts short, I was new then and perhaps a little too eager, stuff may have been lost in the early days. I will try to recap my thoughts and post.
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Malcolm, I watched the video in 1080p HD. I was definitely locked in to 3D, and it's really amazing landscape, rich in contrast and topography changes. I have no real sense of what it is particularly that you are trying to show, though. rd
Rich, when I made this video, it was really to show the incredible topography of the marscape in this particular image file. Since then, things have developed somewhat so I am currently getting further evidence together. It is a most fascinating albeit complicated image file that truly harbors a mass of information both evident and not so evident. I will need to proceed over some time with image postings etc. and my time is limited for work related issues etc.
I plan on doing this under a whole new topic and will address this image file in depth shortly.
Sorry if I cut my earlier posts short, I was new then and perhaps a little too eager, stuff may have been lost in the early days. I will try to recap my thoughts and post.
Malcolm Scott
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10 years 9 months ago #21876
by Larry Burford
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On the topic of ridicule -
Pretty much everyone here knows the rule - you can attack the message, but not the messenger.
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Pretty much everyone here knows the rule - you can attack the message, but not the messenger.
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