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20 years 11 months ago #7133
by tvanflandern
Replied by tvanflandern on topic Reply from Tom Van Flandern
<blockquote id="quote"><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica" id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"><i>Originally posted by Jan</i>
<br />Would it be possible for gravitons to interact with matter through magnetism?<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"></blockquote id="quote"></font id="quote">We need a model for magnetism before we can say. But if magnetism is just another manifestation of graviton-elyson interactions, then this would be a dubious idea.
<blockquote id="quote"><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica" id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote">I have never seen two permanent magnets that heat up when in motion relative to each other.<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"></blockquote id="quote"></font id="quote">Where would the kinetic energy go in magnetic breaking, if not into heat? -|Tom|-
<br />Would it be possible for gravitons to interact with matter through magnetism?<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"></blockquote id="quote"></font id="quote">We need a model for magnetism before we can say. But if magnetism is just another manifestation of graviton-elyson interactions, then this would be a dubious idea.
<blockquote id="quote"><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica" id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote">I have never seen two permanent magnets that heat up when in motion relative to each other.<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"></blockquote id="quote"></font id="quote">Where would the kinetic energy go in magnetic breaking, if not into heat? -|Tom|-
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20 years 11 months ago #7086
by Jan
Replied by Jan on topic Reply from Jan Vink
<blockquote id="quote"><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica" id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote">Where would the kinetic energy go in magnetic breaking, if not into heat?<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"></blockquote id="quote"></font id="quote">
I'm not sure. However, when magnetic fields mingle, can this constitute a friction phenomenon as we know it? Does a magnetic levitated train experience a significant heat flux coming from the magnetic fields themselves? Now, suppose an appreciable heat flux would exist by "rubbing" two magnetic fields, then such friction would contradict the fact that the train doesn't experience any friction! Of course, air friction is present. Do intertwined magnetic fields really generate heat? Perhaps a secundary process to generate the fields generate heat.
I'm not sure. However, when magnetic fields mingle, can this constitute a friction phenomenon as we know it? Does a magnetic levitated train experience a significant heat flux coming from the magnetic fields themselves? Now, suppose an appreciable heat flux would exist by "rubbing" two magnetic fields, then such friction would contradict the fact that the train doesn't experience any friction! Of course, air friction is present. Do intertwined magnetic fields really generate heat? Perhaps a secundary process to generate the fields generate heat.
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20 years 11 months ago #7095
by Jim
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Jan, Don't forget magnets can generate electric power and photons that can be x-rays or radio and everything between. The decay into heat of everything makes no sense since heat is a result of energy interacting with matter. Also heat radiates infrared photons.
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20 years 11 months ago #7137
by Jan
Replied by Jan on topic Reply from Jan Vink
<blockquote id="quote"><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica" id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"><i>Originally posted by Jim</i>
<br />Jan, Don't forget magnets can generate electric power and photons that can be x-rays or radio and everything between. The decay into heat of everything makes no sense since heat is a result of energy interacting with matter. Also heat radiates infrared photons.
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OK. I'm merely asking whether "rubbing" two magnetic fields in an absolute vacuum induces a heat flux. If it would, then the magnetic fields appears to be comprised of forms that somehow touch an exchange energy. Do we know what constitutes a magnetic field?
<br />Jan, Don't forget magnets can generate electric power and photons that can be x-rays or radio and everything between. The decay into heat of everything makes no sense since heat is a result of energy interacting with matter. Also heat radiates infrared photons.
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OK. I'm merely asking whether "rubbing" two magnetic fields in an absolute vacuum induces a heat flux. If it would, then the magnetic fields appears to be comprised of forms that somehow touch an exchange energy. Do we know what constitutes a magnetic field?
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20 years 11 months ago #7378
by Jan
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<blockquote id="quote"><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica" id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote">"The revolution in cosmology, driven by observations and experiments, has changed more than our understanding of the composition of the universe - it has changed our expectations for the future. <b>Quintessence, a sublime substance, may permeate the universe</b>, marking an end to the epoch that saw the formation of stars and galaxies, and the beginning of an epoch of cosmic acceleration. In the short term, space will stretch ever faster, and galaxies will fly apart from one another, leaving a colder, emptier universe. As for the ultimate fate of the universe, <b>the nature of quintessence, not geometry</b>, will be the determining factor."<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"></blockquote id="quote"></font id="quote">
It is just remarkable that relativists and non-relativists will eventually come to the same conclusion: there is an eternal substance that is the cradle of all forms. It is a writing on the wall. GR turns out to have problems with certain aspect and they need to introduce dark matter to make it work.
Humans have argued the existance of a substance since the beginning of time. Now that I think about it, it reminds me of some lecturer I had who gave some advice on doing exams: "Suppose you have many ideas, but you are in doubt which one will be the answer to the question, then it is likely your first idea will be correct."
The first idea of humans was an "aether". This is likely to be true. []
<blockquote id="quote"><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica" id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote">"The revolution in cosmology, driven by observations and experiments, has changed more than our understanding of the composition of the universe - it has changed our expectations for the future. <b>Quintessence, a sublime substance, may permeate the universe</b>, marking an end to the epoch that saw the formation of stars and galaxies, and the beginning of an epoch of cosmic acceleration. In the short term, space will stretch ever faster, and galaxies will fly apart from one another, leaving a colder, emptier universe. As for the ultimate fate of the universe, <b>the nature of quintessence, not geometry</b>, will be the determining factor."<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"></blockquote id="quote"></font id="quote">
It is just remarkable that relativists and non-relativists will eventually come to the same conclusion: there is an eternal substance that is the cradle of all forms. It is a writing on the wall. GR turns out to have problems with certain aspect and they need to introduce dark matter to make it work.
Humans have argued the existance of a substance since the beginning of time. Now that I think about it, it reminds me of some lecturer I had who gave some advice on doing exams: "Suppose you have many ideas, but you are in doubt which one will be the answer to the question, then it is likely your first idea will be correct."
The first idea of humans was an "aether". This is likely to be true. []
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20 years 11 months ago #7379
by Samizdat
Replied by Samizdat on topic Reply from Frederick Wilson
Show me something more convincing than ancient classical myth, (i.e., a reproducible experiment), and I'll show you Elysium.
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