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galaxy jets
20 years 7 months ago #8783
by n/a10
Replied by n/a10 on topic Reply from ed van der Meulen
<blockquote id="quote"><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica" id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"><i>Originally posted by EBTX</i>
<br />Galactic "jets" always appear to me to be something squirted out mechanically like air from a balloon. It seems to have no structure or action similar to particles in a magnetic field. I can't see anything in "normal" physics that would cause the phenomenon.
Let's "make up" something.
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Yes EBTX, and so what? Don't we see at many places that same phenomemon of a low level of order. What physicians call physical chaos, which is not the same as the mathematical notion. I am a mathematician.
In physical chaos you have real local losses and real local gains. Local is a very physical notion.
Compare the H-bomb explosion. You wanted to gain helium. But an enormous explosion follows and you lose "locally" everything. That is no superposition. That is the reality.
Look at the sea and try to code a program. And you see the waves, and wings on it. Quite a job. Then the wind grows. Problems to survive. It's becoming night. And the stars. Coding... coding... coding...
And then we see the moon and she moves and the stars move. And the observer now says it's romantic. What does that coder do then...
... Forget it. That's the best way. Our theories need a complete update. That's the case. See please my other thread.
Do you know what physical chaos is?
You are at a railway station, and the crowd is very complex. Individuals move in all direction. Suddenly you see streams, order, a train arrives. That's true, an influence inducing order. And sometimes the station is empty.
Statistics wont work here. This is physical chaos. Individuals have freedom within constraints. Do you feel obliged to walk precise. No you have also a lot of freedom. You see this everywhere.
It's just a great observation EBTX.
Thanks for it
Ed van der Meulen
<br />Galactic "jets" always appear to me to be something squirted out mechanically like air from a balloon. It seems to have no structure or action similar to particles in a magnetic field. I can't see anything in "normal" physics that would cause the phenomenon.
Let's "make up" something.
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Yes EBTX, and so what? Don't we see at many places that same phenomemon of a low level of order. What physicians call physical chaos, which is not the same as the mathematical notion. I am a mathematician.
In physical chaos you have real local losses and real local gains. Local is a very physical notion.
Compare the H-bomb explosion. You wanted to gain helium. But an enormous explosion follows and you lose "locally" everything. That is no superposition. That is the reality.
Look at the sea and try to code a program. And you see the waves, and wings on it. Quite a job. Then the wind grows. Problems to survive. It's becoming night. And the stars. Coding... coding... coding...
And then we see the moon and she moves and the stars move. And the observer now says it's romantic. What does that coder do then...
... Forget it. That's the best way. Our theories need a complete update. That's the case. See please my other thread.
Do you know what physical chaos is?
You are at a railway station, and the crowd is very complex. Individuals move in all direction. Suddenly you see streams, order, a train arrives. That's true, an influence inducing order. And sometimes the station is empty.
Statistics wont work here. This is physical chaos. Individuals have freedom within constraints. Do you feel obliged to walk precise. No you have also a lot of freedom. You see this everywhere.
It's just a great observation EBTX.
Thanks for it
Ed van der Meulen
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