EXISTENCE (not creation) Ex Nihilo

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Oh really!!
I'd like to read your thoughts of how that works. I'm curious as to where you're coming from on that statement.

Skarp

what is the essence of the idea of concept?

<blockquote id="quote"><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica" id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote">what is the essence of the idea of concept?<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"></blockquote id="quote"></font id="quote">
It would appear you wish to take a tip toe stance.
I might sympathize had you not made this statement about me.
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is this not the saddest commentary of you have ever heard of the human experience.<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"></blockquote id="quote"></font id="quote">

I however will attempt to answer your query.
A concept is a thought and since I will not deny it's existence - Thought must have some form for purposes of perception, and form is about the only criteria of existence. We could discuss the standards of form, but you get the picture in your everyday life.
One note to be made is that all forms are made of nothing. Your perception requires it.

In the universe there are only ones - One at a time - where time is the nothing that ones are made of.

<blockquote id="quote"><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica" id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"><i>Originally posted by Skarp</i>
<br />One note to be made is that all forms are made of nothing. Your perception requires it. In the universe there are only ones - One at a time - where time is the nothing that ones are made of.<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"></blockquote id="quote"></font id="quote">These unjustified assertions appear to be illogical. You must raise your premises above the level of personal beliefs if they are to be discussed in this Message Board. Justify with experiment, observation, reasoning, or citation. But do not simply assert personal, controversial beliefs. That leads to frustration and uncharitable characterizations of the type you complain about, and which we try to discourage here. -|Tom|-

<blockquote id="quote"><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica" id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"><i>Originally posted by Skarp</i>
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A concept is a thought and since I will not deny it's existence - Thought must have some form for purposes of perception, and form is about the only criteria of existence. We could discuss the standards of form, but you get the picture in your everyday life.
One note to be made is that all forms are made of nothing. Your perception requires it.

In the universe there are only ones - One at a time - where time is the nothing that ones are made of.
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The only thing you can experience is YOURSELF. Yourself reacting to yourself or yourself reacting to external stimulus. Perceptions are a state - a condition you assume based upon internal and external stimulus. Perceptions actually have a physical manifestation within you.

One note to be made is that all forms are made of nothing. Your perception requires it.
<blockquote id="quote"><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica" id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote">These unjustified assertions appear to be illogical. You must raise your premises above the level of personal beliefs.<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"></blockquote id="quote"></font id="quote">
To take the form of an apple as an example - Your perception of it requires that there is nothing within the apple, and nothing outside it. You percieve it's form only. No consideration is given to the seeds of the apple, nor it's core, or the meat of the apple, or perhaps the bowl of fruit that surrounds it. A seed of an apple is an entirely different concept, and it's perception requires the same process as given for an apple. This is true for anything in existence. I don't consider this to be a personal belief.

My speculation from this is that should we have a fundamental particle. I.E No concepts within it's geometric form. That it is the definition of Non-Existence. That this fundamental particle is not physical, but a conceptual entity that acts in accordance with physical laws.