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16 years 9 months ago #13429
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<br /> Creating a boundary condition around an infinity is impossible.
Next what is the source in your mind for Gravity???? John
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Hello Stoat,
How does an expanding and contracting universe create an infinity?
Do you mean an infinite number of expansion/ contraction cycles?
A boundary condition around a "close-to-infinity" is possible: The center of our galaxy is such a place.
As I said before, infinities are impossible.
The source of gravity? Simple: matter.
What is your source for gravity?
<br /> Creating a boundary condition around an infinity is impossible.
Next what is the source in your mind for Gravity???? John
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Hello Stoat,
How does an expanding and contracting universe create an infinity?
Do you mean an infinite number of expansion/ contraction cycles?
A boundary condition around a "close-to-infinity" is possible: The center of our galaxy is such a place.
As I said before, infinities are impossible.
The source of gravity? Simple: matter.
What is your source for gravity?
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16 years 9 months ago #18196
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GD, I have explained over and over again the cause of gravity.
If there is a boundary condition then what would be on the other side???? You see you cannot answer that question can you. Because space is an infinity and goes on and on forever in all directions. John
If there is a boundary condition then what would be on the other side???? You see you cannot answer that question can you. Because space is an infinity and goes on and on forever in all directions. John
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16 years 9 months ago #18202
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<blockquote id="quote"><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica" id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"><i>Originally posted by cosmicsurfer</i>
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If there is a boundary condition then what would be on the other side???? You see you cannot answer that question can you. Because space is an infinity and goes on and on forever in all directions. John
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Sorry John,
I think you are wrong. The question is not how infinite the universe is, but how its content is affected with time.
I did say that the universe is spherical in shape (which causes a boundary condition). I do not think this is a problem: light travels at a finite speed.
Light is caused by energy radiating away from matter at a certain entropy. If this condition is not met, then there is no light. For example: the very center of our galaxy. This is also a boundary condition.
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If there is a boundary condition then what would be on the other side???? You see you cannot answer that question can you. Because space is an infinity and goes on and on forever in all directions. John
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Sorry John,
I think you are wrong. The question is not how infinite the universe is, but how its content is affected with time.
I did say that the universe is spherical in shape (which causes a boundary condition). I do not think this is a problem: light travels at a finite speed.
Light is caused by energy radiating away from matter at a certain entropy. If this condition is not met, then there is no light. For example: the very center of our galaxy. This is also a boundary condition.
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16 years 9 months ago #7860
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Hi GD, sorry for being so tardy lately but I'm more concerned with boilers and double glazing at the moment. I fail to see how the universe is expanding, there's so many patches on the poor thing that it would be best to throw it in the bin.
On infinities, there can be no such thing as a "near infinity". After all, how near is near?
I don't understand your point about the centre of our galaxy, what do you find so remarkable about it? There are at least ten to the power eleven of them.
How I think it works is, electromagnetic mass condenses round inertial mass. Half of the mass of an electron say, is contained within a tiny region of space, that is spinning much much faster than light. On the outside we have more space. Now in my book that's a capacitor, it's also a transformer. The electromagnetic force and the electrostatic force are simply attributes of the vastly different spin rates, to the ftl central gyro, the electron surface charge is static, though it's moving at the speed of light!
In John's thread we've been talking about the odd properties of space with a negative refractive index. One of them is this; if we have two spheres of negative refractive glass, light will flow in a loop between them! These spheres are concave lenses! An electron then can have a permanent "current" flow from the space that it's imbedded in, to its central space, without any energy loss. That means forever and a day.
Stars will inevitably die but the stuff they are made of won't. That should mean that over an infinite period of time, the whole of the universe will fill with dead black cinder stars. Though once a star has exhausted its entire store of electromagnetic energy, it has in effect removed the very dielectric which defines the sub atomic particles that make it up. I think that such very cold stars just disappear like the grin of a cheshire cat.
On infinities, there can be no such thing as a "near infinity". After all, how near is near?
I don't understand your point about the centre of our galaxy, what do you find so remarkable about it? There are at least ten to the power eleven of them.
How I think it works is, electromagnetic mass condenses round inertial mass. Half of the mass of an electron say, is contained within a tiny region of space, that is spinning much much faster than light. On the outside we have more space. Now in my book that's a capacitor, it's also a transformer. The electromagnetic force and the electrostatic force are simply attributes of the vastly different spin rates, to the ftl central gyro, the electron surface charge is static, though it's moving at the speed of light!
In John's thread we've been talking about the odd properties of space with a negative refractive index. One of them is this; if we have two spheres of negative refractive glass, light will flow in a loop between them! These spheres are concave lenses! An electron then can have a permanent "current" flow from the space that it's imbedded in, to its central space, without any energy loss. That means forever and a day.
Stars will inevitably die but the stuff they are made of won't. That should mean that over an infinite period of time, the whole of the universe will fill with dead black cinder stars. Though once a star has exhausted its entire store of electromagnetic energy, it has in effect removed the very dielectric which defines the sub atomic particles that make it up. I think that such very cold stars just disappear like the grin of a cheshire cat.
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16 years 9 months ago #11158
by cosmicsurfer
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GD, You did not answer my question. What is on the other side of a boundary condition?
1. There are many centers of paired motion in an infinite Universe.
2. Centers of motion are negative entropic because they are paired motions between matter and antimatter, and that motion generates tremendous torgue and a constant power supply of gravitons. Otherwise, there would be zero vortical structures found in Universe...and without a cycling of energy no black holes, no antimatter jets, no gravitons, no light, zero rotations, and nothing would exist period.
3. We cannot see the paired motion of our antimatter portion of the visible Universe. We can only see the subparticle paired motion in Meson, quark and antiquark rotations at three trillion times per second.
4. The Universe does not fall back upon itself. Motion originates from a GRAVITON CYCLE between large scale paired motions between matter and antimatter rotations as it attempts to collapse back onto itself but it cannot so these matter and antimatter centers of rotation in paired motions continuously rotate around each other.
5. Universe has always existed, no early Universe, and Universe did not form from a Big Bang. light is not the fastest motion in visible Universe---Gravity is instantaneous, you cannot calculate orbits using speed of light. These notions of GR, SR, BIG BANG, DARK MATTER are the reason why physics is in such a mess today!!!!
John
1. There are many centers of paired motion in an infinite Universe.
2. Centers of motion are negative entropic because they are paired motions between matter and antimatter, and that motion generates tremendous torgue and a constant power supply of gravitons. Otherwise, there would be zero vortical structures found in Universe...and without a cycling of energy no black holes, no antimatter jets, no gravitons, no light, zero rotations, and nothing would exist period.
3. We cannot see the paired motion of our antimatter portion of the visible Universe. We can only see the subparticle paired motion in Meson, quark and antiquark rotations at three trillion times per second.
4. The Universe does not fall back upon itself. Motion originates from a GRAVITON CYCLE between large scale paired motions between matter and antimatter rotations as it attempts to collapse back onto itself but it cannot so these matter and antimatter centers of rotation in paired motions continuously rotate around each other.
5. Universe has always existed, no early Universe, and Universe did not form from a Big Bang. light is not the fastest motion in visible Universe---Gravity is instantaneous, you cannot calculate orbits using speed of light. These notions of GR, SR, BIG BANG, DARK MATTER are the reason why physics is in such a mess today!!!!
John
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16 years 9 months ago #20659
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1)...On infinities, there can be no such thing as a "near infinity". After all, how near is near?
2)...I don't understand your point about the centre of our galaxy, what do you find so remarkable about it? There are at least ten to the power eleven of them.
3)... An electron then can have a permanent "current" flow from the space that it's imbedded in, to its central space, without any energy loss. That means forever and a day.
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Hello Stoat,
1) "Tend to infinity" does not mean "reach infinity". According to you, how many times will our galaxy have merged with other galaxies in 1000 trillion trillion years time lets say? (you say there is no limit on the age of the universe)
If all matter in the universe will turn into "cinder stars", its energy vs volume (space) will tend from... to... (what are the limits?) How many degrees of freedom (affects motion) do your cinder stars have?
2) The center of the galaxy is where matter converts into energy.
(basically: degrees of freedom tend to zero)
3) An electron is a particle. Once it converts into light, it may affect other particles but cannot turn back into a particle. Although I do see an electron having a particle/wave duality within very short distances (inside the atom).
4) Today the universe is composed of 99% plasmas and 1% matter. According to your theory,(cinder stars) affect plasmas. What will happen to matter?
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1)...On infinities, there can be no such thing as a "near infinity". After all, how near is near?
2)...I don't understand your point about the centre of our galaxy, what do you find so remarkable about it? There are at least ten to the power eleven of them.
3)... An electron then can have a permanent "current" flow from the space that it's imbedded in, to its central space, without any energy loss. That means forever and a day.
4)...Stars will inevitably die but the stuff they are made of won't. <hr height="1" noshade id="quote"></blockquote id="quote"></font id="quote">
Hello Stoat,
1) "Tend to infinity" does not mean "reach infinity". According to you, how many times will our galaxy have merged with other galaxies in 1000 trillion trillion years time lets say? (you say there is no limit on the age of the universe)
If all matter in the universe will turn into "cinder stars", its energy vs volume (space) will tend from... to... (what are the limits?) How many degrees of freedom (affects motion) do your cinder stars have?
2) The center of the galaxy is where matter converts into energy.
(basically: degrees of freedom tend to zero)
3) An electron is a particle. Once it converts into light, it may affect other particles but cannot turn back into a particle. Although I do see an electron having a particle/wave duality within very short distances (inside the atom).
4) Today the universe is composed of 99% plasmas and 1% matter. According to your theory,(cinder stars) affect plasmas. What will happen to matter?
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