Antigravity Research

Hi Stoat, the Santilli Isodual geometries of space are blowing my mind! I have to let these ideas settle in for awhile before I try to grasp the significance of Iso-dual space, but first thoughts are its like two oceans in reverse motion but like fire and water they just don't mix yet some how they are found as pairs at all scales. Now this shows why the two sides will seek to get back to their own space, and we will never find any Antimatter Star Systems in our space....because they only exist in their own domain...heavy duty..So, gravitons trillions of times speed of light diving towards this reverse ocean, yet cannot enter it. Because...here is the kicker,,,we are three trillionth of a second out of phase [extrapolated from meson pair rotations]!!! Mass forms, spins, light spectrum, subparticles of this ocean pair up in a mix from each side of this separate space ocean and bang sometimes the two sides collide Supernovae!!! Collapsing Galactic Centers and Antigravitons ejecting in huge columns from the other reverse space ocean. That's enough for now...later, John

I forwarded your question to Dave Thomson, author the the New Foundation of Physics. Here is his email back to me:

Hi Colleen,

Interesting discussion you folks are having.

Stoat's estimate of gravity acting on mass at faster than the speed of light is compatible with our presentation of gravity acting instantaneously. "20 billion times c" is for all intents and purposes, instantaneous.

As the Aether Physics Model reveals, the Gforce is driving the Universe. Everything follows the pulse of the Gforce. Every Aether unit (quantum rotating magnetic field) is spinning to the same beat. Each Aether unit converts the effect of Gforce (reciprocal force) into the effect of physical force as the Aether units act on the dimensions of mass, electrostatic charge, and electromagnetic charge. Thus the physical forces are being driven instantaneously by the Gforce, through the fabric of all Aether units, and throughout the Universe at the same moment. Gravity, permanent magnetism, and static electric charge force are all instantaneous forces.

Modern physics confuses magnetism and electromagnetic radiation where magnetism is only defined as a moving charged particle, which has been misconstrued to mean that photons are the carriers of magnetism. Yes, it is true that photons are the carriers of electromagnetic radiation, but not permanent magnetism or electrostatic charge force. Electromagnetic radiation is a complex event involving photons, but the fundamental forces are completely different animals. The Aether is the "carrier" of the fundamental forces, as is clearly seen in the force laws.

The graviton is supposed to be a two spin particle. The Aether unit is quantified as a two spin quantum rotating magnetic field. The graviton has never been directly observed, neither has the Aether. However, the effects of the graviton (gravity) and the effects of the Aether (all fundamental forces, spin structure, quantum space [solitons and phonons], frame dragging, fabric of space-time) are clearly observed. If the effects are observed, the cause is likely real, even if non-material in structure. Essentially, the graviton and Aether unit are the same thing, except that the Aether is the quantum unit of all the fundamental forces, not just gravity.

As for the "creationist" view, the Gforce is called the God force for the same reason the Higgs Boson is called the God particle, it is considered to be the single origin to which the entire Universe can be reduced. The Gforce does not refer to the god that resided on a mountain in the Middle East that was coerced into and carried around in a golden box while the Hiksos committed genocide against the Phoenicians (Canaanites). One is a legend tainted with myth, yet the Gforce is a scientific fact derived from scientific measurements. I'm open to any other adjective for describing the Gforce that people might come up with. But the scientific fact remains, the Gforce appears in the physics.

BTW, when I came up for the name of Gforce, I chose it because it could also mean Geometry force or Great force. Whatever the Gforce is, it is the source of geometry that gives rise to the geometry within the physical Universe. It is also the greatest of all existence, since it is the very foundation of all physical existence.

Despite all the negative and egotistical additions to God given in religious traditions, the religious God is also considered to be the Creator of the physical Universe. Empirically, the Gforce is the creator of the physical Universe. So the religious and scientific creationist views share similarities, even though the concepts arise by different means.

Dave

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John, I think a neg r.i BEC is the perfect containment vessel. That three km ball in the centre of our sun is playing around with huge energies but it's not breaking any rules.

Hi Coleen, have you read this guy's book, or just the site pdf?

Hi Colleen, Great letter from Dave. Certainly very similar thinking going on here. I will have to re-read and take a look at his information in more detail,,,thanks! John

OMG, Was just re-reading posts! Stoat,I was visualizing your description of the sine wave and came to huge crossroad....this is huge,,,okay the wave goes both ways....it crosses from both sides of the positive and negative oceans of energy@sowhat do we do now? The assymetry is from a large scale motion, but the point of departing waves is totally symmetrical. There is a perfect crossing wave when one is up the other is down and the cross each other....very similar to the Searl Device two wavefronts that enable the roller to spin freely forever! What is interesting about his reoccuring dreams he had as a child is that he saw this pattern....So, in his schematic one of the sine waves is DC and the other is AC which is the whole key to getting the effect by imprinting this pattern on the magnetic rollers, now maybe the waves are symmetric but they are different pulsations one DC [electric currents]and the other Alternating Current [hmmm, ping ping both ways from phase half wave rectification of graviton/antigraviton wave reversals]. Not sure if this relates but the graviton pinging clearly has another wave coming from the otherside overlaid in perfect symmetry during the demodulation process creating rotational forces. Is one wave from gravitons,and the other wave from antigraviton short range scattering around antimatter creating a coulomb type repulsive force---maybe keeping enough distance between the matter and antimatter oceans so that the chassis and graviton exchange are a controlled annihilation/wave reversals?

Also, most likely the Antigravitons have a very short range within our scale and are out of here going backwards towards the negative ocean. Because, every three thrilionth of a second mass is completely regenerated in forward motion, John

Hi John, I don't think the fire and water analogy is that helpful. We have to avoid thinking of it as two universes. I prefer thinking of it as a section of film, which we can run backwards.

The first thing we should do is read that guy's pdf and think on how we can link it with the isodual idea. I like this quote form it.
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Other stuff I like; the toroidal electron. The stuff on fine structure, and teh stuff on the casimer effect. I'd like to hear what this guy makes of the superlens neg r.i. stuff.

Can we think of a cheaper experiment for the isodual idea? Hundred metre vacated tubes of positron and electron beams is hardly garage kit.